Comments on: Domain Grace Period Alterations http://www.domainersgazette.com/domain-grace-period-alterations/ ..domainer news, musings, and odd ramblings Mon, 06 Oct 2008 16:14:08 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Dave Zan http://www.domainersgazette.com/domain-grace-period-alterations/#comment-4559 Dave Zan Fri, 30 Nov 2007 05:42:03 +0000 http://www.domainersgazette.com/domain-grace-period-alterations/#comment-4559 <blockquote>I can’t see the ole grace period being skipped by any registrar.</blockquote> There's one I know in particular: http://www.iyd.com/index.php/module/home/action/page/show/tos/ There is no grace period and under no circumstances will ItsYourDomain.com be able to renew the domain after the automatic expiration. </blockquote> That hasn't changed before and after they were acquired by Tucows, unless someone hasn't re-written their TOS.

I can’t see the ole grace period being skipped by any registrar.

There’s one I know in particular:

http://www.iyd.com/index.php/module/home/action/page/show/tos/

There is no grace period and under no circumstances will ItsYourDomain.com be able to renew the domain after the automatic expiration.

That hasn’t changed before and after they were acquired by Tucows, unless someone hasn’t re-written their TOS.

]]> By: DomainerPro http://www.domainersgazette.com/domain-grace-period-alterations/#comment-3106 DomainerPro Tue, 13 Nov 2007 22:25:34 +0000 http://www.domainersgazette.com/domain-grace-period-alterations/#comment-3106 Good idea. This has happened to me two. Several months ago there was a one-word .org dropping. It dealt with a subject that I interest me greatly and I began thinking of how I could develop it. I was very excited. I placed a very high pre-auction bid on Snapnames in the hopes that they would devote more resources to acquiring the name. I also backordered the name on GoDaddy and Pool. I was practically drooling. The owner renewed it the last day. Oh, well. Good idea. This has happened to me two. Several months ago there was a one-word .org dropping. It dealt with a subject that I interest me greatly and I began thinking of how I could develop it. I was very excited. I placed a very high pre-auction bid on Snapnames in the hopes that they would devote more resources to acquiring the name. I also backordered the name on GoDaddy and Pool. I was practically drooling.

The owner renewed it the last day. Oh, well.

]]> By: Peter Askew http://www.domainersgazette.com/domain-grace-period-alterations/#comment-2461 Peter Askew Thu, 01 Nov 2007 13:24:27 +0000 http://www.domainersgazette.com/domain-grace-period-alterations/#comment-2461 ..broken down, here's what I was suggesting: 1. Domain Expires 2. 3-day Grace Period 'Offer' Auction begins. All bidders agree to some sort of T&C stating: if the original owner never returns, nothing happens, and domain eventually enters pre-release auction. If original owner *does* return to renew, the owner will be presented with the two offers: re-up & pay the recovery fee & regain control , or, pay recovery fee and sell for $xxx offer. 3. Then original owner approves transfer to highest bidder, and registrar takes small % of the sale. also, in my opinion, I can't see the ole grace period being skipped by any registrar. It was built to protect original registrants, and if it was altered, I'd expect a large backlash from the community at large.. -peter ..broken down, here’s what I was suggesting:

1. Domain Expires

2. 3-day Grace Period ‘Offer’ Auction begins. All bidders agree to some sort of T&C stating: if the original owner never returns, nothing happens, and domain eventually enters pre-release auction. If original owner *does* return to renew, the owner will be presented with the two offers: re-up & pay the recovery fee & regain control , or, pay recovery fee and sell for $xxx offer.

3. Then original owner approves transfer to highest bidder, and registrar takes small % of the sale.

also, in my opinion, I can’t see the ole grace period being skipped by any registrar. It was built to protect original registrants, and if it was altered, I’d expect a large backlash from the community at large..

-peter

]]> By: Jason Lavigne http://www.domainersgazette.com/domain-grace-period-alterations/#comment-2416 Jason Lavigne Wed, 31 Oct 2007 19:01:37 +0000 http://www.domainersgazette.com/domain-grace-period-alterations/#comment-2416 Interesting idea however what you call a re-register is actually a recovery by the registrar. When a registrar recovers a domain it can only be recovered to the original owner and there are extra costs associated with a recovery over a renewal. The registrar is not able to recover the domain in the name of the original owner to then transfer it to a new owner. I also believe you will see fewer and fewer domains enter the redemption grace period as more registrars stop deleting domains and instead take them for resale in their own aftermarket programs. Interesting idea however what you call a re-register is actually a recovery by the registrar. When a registrar recovers a domain it can only be recovered to the original owner and there are extra costs associated with a recovery over a renewal. The registrar is not able to recover the domain in the name of the original owner to then transfer it to a new owner.

I also believe you will see fewer and fewer domains enter the redemption grace period as more registrars stop deleting domains and instead take them for resale in their own aftermarket programs.

]]> By: Nick Wilsdon http://www.domainersgazette.com/domain-grace-period-alterations/#comment-2388 Nick Wilsdon Wed, 31 Oct 2007 09:42:31 +0000 http://www.domainersgazette.com/domain-grace-period-alterations/#comment-2388 Sort of like a 'Buy Now' option on the auction. Yes would be handy in eliminating the waiting periods. Tucows are a very fair registrar but the 80 day wait is a killer. However, there will be a fair number of domain owners though who can not be contacted. This seems to be a reason for many deletions in my experience. You would have to have the full grace period for them if there was no response to the 'buy now or renew' offer. Sort of like a ‘Buy Now’ option on the auction. Yes would be handy in eliminating the waiting periods. Tucows are a very fair registrar but the 80 day wait is a killer.

However, there will be a fair number of domain owners though who can not be contacted. This seems to be a reason for many deletions in my experience. You would have to have the full grace period for them if there was no response to the ‘buy now or renew’ offer.

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]]> By: Peter Askew http://www.domainersgazette.com/domain-grace-period-alterations/#comment-2341 Peter Askew Tue, 30 Oct 2007 15:45:11 +0000 http://www.domainersgazette.com/domain-grace-period-alterations/#comment-2341 yup.. -peter yup..

-peter

]]> By: 2w http://www.domainersgazette.com/domain-grace-period-alterations/#comment-2337 2w Tue, 30 Oct 2007 14:42:30 +0000 http://www.domainersgazette.com/domain-grace-period-alterations/#comment-2337 hi greeting , does the term `````re-register"""" mentionned by u[you] here mean the same as `````re-new"""" ?? ThANKye , 2w hi greeting ,

does the term ““`re-register”"”" mentionned by u[you] here
mean the same as
““`re-new”"”"
??

ThANKye , 2w

]]> By: Mike Maddaloni http://www.domainersgazette.com/domain-grace-period-alterations/#comment-2335 Mike Maddaloni Tue, 30 Oct 2007 14:23:04 +0000 http://www.domainersgazette.com/domain-grace-period-alterations/#comment-2335 This is an interesting idea. From the sell side, it would benefit owners as it would allow them to see if there's interest for their domain name. Many times a domain name is dropped because it isn't of relevance anymore to the owner. Also, I would guess many non-domainers wouldn't realize the value of their domain name unless it was presented to them. From the buy side, it would allow for a cleaner process, and even firms like SnapNames could still benefit from such a process. mp/m This is an interesting idea.

From the sell side, it would benefit owners as it would allow them to see if there’s interest for their domain name. Many times a domain name is dropped because it isn’t of relevance anymore to the owner. Also, I would guess many non-domainers wouldn’t realize the value of their domain name unless it was presented to them.

From the buy side, it would allow for a cleaner process, and even firms like SnapNames could still benefit from such a process.

mp/m

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